Thank you Cappytan. And I would add this would be a difficult decision for him, as his wife and kids are completely indoctrinated.
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Is my friend on the way out of the organisation?
by The Rebel inwhen i left the watchtower i realised it was best to put friendships on hold.
however i mentioned to my best friend that i didn't agree with how they handled child abuse issues and that was one of the reasons i left.. anyway as i am fortunate and own two rental apartments and he is a plumber so we have kept in contact, in that i email him when i require his services and he sends me the invoice.
anyway i am now dissociated, but yesterday i emailed him about a pluming problem, and he replied.. " sorry we missed going to the indian ( this was a comment made about us having a meal together about 9 months ago, which i backed out of because i felt he was too indoctrinated and i had not disassociated myself) anyway his email continued:-.
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Is my friend on the way out of the organisation?
by The Rebel inwhen i left the watchtower i realised it was best to put friendships on hold.
however i mentioned to my best friend that i didn't agree with how they handled child abuse issues and that was one of the reasons i left.. anyway as i am fortunate and own two rental apartments and he is a plumber so we have kept in contact, in that i email him when i require his services and he sends me the invoice.
anyway i am now dissociated, but yesterday i emailed him about a pluming problem, and he replied.. " sorry we missed going to the indian ( this was a comment made about us having a meal together about 9 months ago, which i backed out of because i felt he was too indoctrinated and i had not disassociated myself) anyway his email continued:-.
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When I left the watchtower I realised it was best to put friendships on hold. However I mentioned to my best friend that I didn't agree with how they handled child abuse issues and that was one of the reasons I left.
Anyway as I am fortunate and own two rental apartments and he is a plumber so we have kept in contact, in that I email him when I require his services and he sends me the invoice. Anyway I am now dissociated, but yesterday I emailed him about a pluming problem, and he replied.
" Sorry we missed going to the Indian ( this was a comment made about us having a meal together about 9 months ago, which I backed out of because I felt he was too indoctrinated and I had not disassociated myself) Anyway his email continued:-
"would be interesting to catch up, was interested in your comment about paedophiles. It also seems there is an issue with money at the moment as they stopped work at Chelmsford and some bethelites have been laid off"
He then signed off " will report back tonight when I've done the job"
I was thinking when he reports back, I have 3 options:-
A) To say, I noted your comment about paedophiles and suggest you look up the Australian Royal Commission and Jehovers Witness.
B) Ask to meet for an Indian and let him have it. ( surely he wouldn't agree to meet if he is still indoctrinated?
Or my current preferred option,:-
C) Just pay the plumbing bill, and say if you want to talk I am here for you.
This is a big decision for me, as all those years knocking on doors, my now greatest achivement would be to help my dear friend out the Watchtower. Therefore advice would be appreciated.
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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Maybe this is not an important observation, but I think if the attitude of a posters words comes across as very condescending,it can give the impression of superiority. However at the same time this could could be completely in the mind of the reader. Therefore we should pause to consider if how we perceive a posters words, are necessarily written the way it was intended. This is of course easier to achive when we communicate in a humble way, and don't put ourselfs or others on a pedestal.
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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Religion recognizes that rule over a persons mind is the key to rule the country. But isn't that what communism and captitalisam is about? Sadly to many people adhere to this rule without a fight. At least some posters here stand up and fight for what they think. That deserves respect.
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p.s Reb catching a bus and not a flight.
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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When truth is the enemy everything becomes objectionable.
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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Xanthippe " Here in the U.K we have a saying never discuss religion or politics"
The Rebel (A) Maybe that explains why Blair was elected and allowed to bomb Iraq?
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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O.C " You were the one being disrespectful"
The Rebel (Q) How would you justify that comment?
Probably best if you don't answer as the O.P. is " On the respect of the beliefs of others" not personal issues I have with Oubliette, which have nothing to do with beliefs. Maybe it's our history, maybe it's a personality clash, but it doesn't belong on this thread. End Of. We have P.M, if we want to sort it.
Maybe that's the best way to respect the beliefs of others, not to side track the thread thread with unrelated crap.
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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On this one I have to say I agree with Simon, if those posts weren't deleted I am sure Oubliette and I were at war. Hardly worthy of a thread " respecting the beliefs of others"
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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O.C " People who have invested their time and life into a profession deserve respect"
The Rebel (A) Does that include pioneers,ministerial servants, elders,circuit overseers and the G.B?
We have many " professional educators" in our life and we have many people who have invested their time and life into a profession, footballers and politicians, In my opinion that is not the criteria for respect.
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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The real joy of this thread does not require thinking but the simple joy of discovering how we can all get along, and as we all get along we all gain greater insight and better communication skills.
The above bullshit was what we belived as beloved as Jehovers Witnesses.
The Rebel.